In "best of" Radio Ecoshock interviews, Dr. Tim Garrett says civilization must collapse to avert devastating climate change. Dr. Peter Ward says Nature may not have friendly plans for us.
All interviews and music by Alex Smith of Radio Ecoshock
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You will hear a little-known Professor from the University of Utah, Dr. Tim Garrett. He's a cloud specialist. But Garrett published a paper published in America's most prestigious journal, after being championed by the father of "global warming" Wally Broecker. It still took two years to get out.
Why? Because Garrett worked out that according to the laws of physics, only a complete collapse of civilization could save us now from devastating global warming. We'd rather keep on driving around than hear about that.
Then we go back to one of my favorite climate scientists, Dr. Peter Ward. He's got the history of life in this planet in his back pocket. Some of the long-term future too. Peter Ward says nature isn't nice, and really there isn't much of a plan. We can dream of an intelligent Gaian God in command of the future. The biological record, says Ward, is more like Mr. Bean is in charge. We need to get a grip on who we really are, and where we really are.
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